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Re: The Philosopher's Stone
Sun, September 14, 2008 - 1:53 AMwow, these are all things i already knew and have come to know by going deeper down this eternal abyss. i know the concepts, i just didnt put it into geometrical terms, lol.
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Re: The Philosopher's Stone
Sun, September 14, 2008 - 3:10 PMYes, Mithraists put a 'special name' on a small stone.
The Philosopher's Stone must be comprised of all those various dualities
and elemental quaternary.
To list...
male/female
life/death
light/dark
subject/object
here/there
above/below
inside/outside
see/ be perceived
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Tue, July 21, 2009 - 11:53 PM“The word 'stone' in the name 'The Philosophers' Stone' reinforces the fixed, universal, unmovable nature of the four Concepts.
In this sense the word 'stone' has the same connotation as the stone tables of the Ten Commandments which Abraham brought down from Mount Sinai.”
Moses brought those stone tablets down from Sinai, but his piece in thisi is quite interesting, alluding to these commandments as “the Philosopher’s Stone.” What would that mean? That the commandments are the “stone” by which an internal life is led? Perhaps. I wonder if others could expand upon this.
I think the Abraham statement may be a esoteric slip here, conscious nor not, for Abraham met with Yeshua and received the blessing of bread and wine, the most profound and central blessing in both the Jewish and the Christian streams of light transmission. In the Jewish tradition, it is the core opening and closing to Shabbat, where special wine and bread is blessed and eaten.
The Eucharist is the central rite in which the Blood of Christ and Body are given as the central blessing. This is what Abraham brings to Western Mysteries, the mystery of the bread and wine as mystical symbols of God’s Grace and Glroy, a cornerstone, a philosophers’ stone? Interesting.
Another stated that these ideas were both true? How can this be? How can it be the stone of the tables Moses carries, or a set ceremony, or an abstraction, or a vision, or a grail, or any of these symbols that carry this idea of eternal life and/or a limitless manifesting power and act as an access to these powers.
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Fri, September 4, 2009 - 1:46 AMHave any here ever read "The Emerald Tablet"? Not the book by Dennis Hauck which is about the Emerald Tablet, but the original Emerald Tablet, said to have been written by Hermes or Toth in ancient Egypt. This is the essence and beginning of alchemy.
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Fri, September 18, 2009 - 9:14 AMThe emerald tablet is a waist of time and research.The quotes go far back but the emerald tablet myth is just that a myth but there are certain things that go beyond myth and fiction.I luv discussions on the philosophers stone to me its quit interesting.The myth of the stone goes far back way beyond egypt.The true stone was a spiritual foundation of hidden knowledge built by the philosophers upon the grounds of religion.It was said the stone was the foundation of something real something that if sought after would be hard to understand because what you can achieve.Like the old bible quote" building a church on this rock" its a foundation that never breaks and lifts the human soul to the divine state of being this is also water'd down by many other groups that lead people astray with promising things but in reality it is nothing but lies to get people to spend their money and blind people in the process.Religion in general is very misleading because man is trying to teach man about how the bible is supposed to be tought and in the process man changes the bible to fit his way of teaching it when all they are doing is twisting the story on how it should be tought.I can tell you once I found the both stones yes the metallurgic concept of changing the molecules of certain metals to form gold and YES it does work and is an awesome effect to transpire and to watch.The concept was that if the soul could undergo a transformation such as this than you should be able to transform the impure to pure and so alchemists began the experiments as well as the secret stone which hardly no one knows about the myth behind
an alchemists potion that if made correctly would make the drinker live longer basically the fountain of youth myth but its real thats why the myth got started.The potion is suppose to attack the aging process and stop it in its tracks they made movies on it one such movie with this kinda potion is "Death becomes her" but this was a real thing and if you study right you can find the alchemists who experimented with it because they move around alot in history and change their names because as their friends die off they did not want to be seen because people would start to ask questions on to how and why are they outliving me?I'm getting off subject sorry.But the philosophers stone is very intriguing the secret on the human soul and its evolution to a GOD and yes you heard me right a GOD not THE GOD but a GOD a title that lucifer,satan whatever you wish to call him throughout history that is the position he held until he fell from grace and when he did it opened this position and this is the real philosophers stone the understanding of this will open a door your mind will never perceive because it is the reason why we feel within ourselves there is something great to life I will leave you with this to ponder about and if your interested on knowing more then write me this is coming strait from the bible which people tend to push aside but its not well understood.
alatians 4:4-7
4But when the time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under law, 5to redeem those under law, that we might receive the full rights of sons. 6Because you are sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, "Abba,[a] Father." 7So you are no longer a slave, but a son; and since you are a son, God has made you also an heir.
hmm an heir to what you might ask make you wonder yet :) look up the definition of heir it says:
1 : one who inherits or is entitled to inherit property
2 : one who inherits or is entitled to succeed to a hereditary rank, title, or office <heir to the throne>
3 : one who receives or is entitled to receive some endowment or quality from a parent or predecessor
now read this and for those initiated into such secrets you will understand me on what I say on others this will only make you look deeper into the stone
THE PHILOSOPHERS STONE
Revelation 2:7
7He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.
Revelation 2:11
11He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt at all by the second death.
Revelation 2:17
17He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will give some of the hidden manna. I will also give him a white stone with a new name written on it, known only to him who receives it.
Revelation 2:26-29
26To him who overcomes and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations—
27'He will rule them with an iron scepter;
he will dash them to pieces like pottery'[a]— just as I have received authority from my Father. 28I will also give him the morning star. 29He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
Revelation 3:5-6
5He who overcomes will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out his name from the book of life, but will acknowledge his name before my Father and his angels. 6He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.
Revelation 3:21-22
21To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I overcame and sat down with my Father on his throne. 22He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches."
Revelation 21:7
7He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son.
the understanding of this will open another door yet to be sought after but if you do you will see wonders that you only dream about what I give here is real whether you believe me is up to you but won't you be ashamed if you get over on the other side of reality and find out it would be real this is something else to ponder on for a while. -
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Fri, September 18, 2009 - 9:17 AMit is Galatians 4:4-7 the G in the word got cut off then I was pasting it lol -
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Fri, September 18, 2009 - 11:40 AMi would like it a whole lot better if this did not become a christian theological debate. -
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Fri, September 18, 2009 - 1:01 PMits not......Just stating that the philosophers stone is rooted in other places too.I don't do christian debates lol only stating my opinion your entitled to your own.This is mine if you don't like it tough no one says you have to agree. -
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Fri, September 18, 2009 - 2:22 PMforgive me, i misunderstood. not christian dialog, a christian monolog. got it.
proceed! im a heathen so i will vacate this conversation.
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Sat, September 19, 2009 - 12:01 AMno your not a heathen.So many people pop fun and laugh at the bible because they follow their own hate towards something they don't understand its only human to question and reject such is life but no matter what everyone believes we all have the same spirit within us that unites us all its called free will you live how you choose and what you do in life is your own.No person can judge the way you think and no person can condemn you for your beliefs.No one can say hey your going to hell because its not in anyone's authority and I don't believe in christian philosophy because they like to condemn you for everything you do and that is not right.I put this out there because it will touch a certain few that are members of the elect and they know who they are.These kinda paths are initiated for people who already have touched the experience and has broken free of the web of the soul.This web is were everyone gets caught up in.If you can break the web you free the soul and once this is done then stand back and admire the show because then the fun begins.No matter what path you choose it all leads to one outcome which is the spiritual evolution of the soul this evolution is an instinct within us that tells us we have higher purposes and we do if we so choose to accept it.But this path is not for everyone because this will only call out to those that know what I'm saying.The purpose of the spiritual path is to awaken the soul in knowing we are not alone and the knowledge of divinity that opens a higher field of understanding to what exists and what is possible to achieve.Look throughout history some of the best people were also laughed at until the time came to prove them wrong and they did.I would not stand up so strong if I did not have the personal experience that told me what I put down.I am only putting it out here because so many people search and are misguided by so many promises by groups that I would atleast give something worth the effort in going after.I also know I am not the only one who believes this neither.Others are just too scared of being ridiculed like I am but it dosen't bother me because in time it will open itself up trust me on this one in time you will see and when you do you will think back to this conversation.But anyway back to the conversation of the stone.Thnx for your input though and your not a heathen your a good friend to those in need and have been rejected by alot.Your a good person when you want to be and have been on a roller coaster called life for a while but it will get better when you want it too.
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Sat, September 19, 2009 - 12:12 AMim going to start a new tribe called 'heathen alchemists'. :)
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Sat, September 19, 2009 - 12:22 PMsometimes an antagonist is just the impetus needed to acheive, other, more focused goals.
Now pay attention to your moderator more, she has it going on, and really does know her subject admirably. I am i awe of her.
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Tue, September 22, 2009 - 1:17 PMI did not notice replies to this thread till now. sorry I am not yet familiar with this system hahaha oh well. I want to comment more and will. I am in a hurry this moment so I will be back.
But Emerald Tablet is very valuable and it is you must remember written long ago when language was closer to truth, in other words modern English and western European language is a handicapped language as is the western mindset. This is not a debate so you must research this heavily if you do not agree. It is simple point of fact. So we are handicapped in our way of thinking to begin with hahaha
Emerald Tablet is written like Tao Te Ching, it is speaking of the eternal energy of creation.
But lets put it in a more practical way of understanding and experience. Have you tried alchemical elixirs or something as simple as ormus. This is something you can physically experience. You see alchemy is the western yoga and alchemy is the science of raising vibration. If you use ormus you will feel it and you will not philosophize as much as you will become more aware and know.
Please do comment and I shall read the above posts better and come back to reply.
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Thu, September 24, 2009 - 11:58 PMI have read the emerald tablet supposedly written by thoth but so far these writtings could be fabricated.Though the sayings within are the secret of the philosophers stone the process of metallurgy.I find the writtings interesting but when tring to trace the roots of the emerald tablet the last person who was supposedly in possesion of it was Alexander the great then it gets lost through history.I have found one more person who wrote about it and wrote an alchemical coded manuscript and a few colleagues of mine may think if the myth is real than this might be a nice chunk of the were abouts that it might be.The person writting the manuscript wrote in cryptographic ciphers and symbols but I'm taking a class in cryptology and find the field interesting.If your really going to study ancient alchemy I would suggest it since some of their secrets are behind symbols and mumbo jumbo words that to us look like nothing but to the trained eye the small phrase contains much.I luv alchemy and find it interesting because of the ancient science they were taping into.But so far the emerald tablet still remains in my eyes a fabrication until I further investigate.If it starts to look good I'm writing a book about it because I find the emerald tablet myth interesting and you have to keep it just that a myth till one opens whether it is really a myth or not.So far what we found on this subject and the people we are currently studying right now because the trail to tracing it just drops off then hints in china,India,Russia,Iraq turn up but I will not talk about this.But yes the emerald tablet is interesting and thoth did exist but that was not his real name and he was a pharaoh in the 16th dynasty and thats all I'm going to open at this point but research is proving useful. -
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Fri, September 25, 2009 - 1:08 AMthe simplest way to answer that practice is to not theorize, but actually practice the arte. authorship and antiquity are secondary to result and usefulness. -
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Fri, September 25, 2009 - 1:50 AMHere is a brief commentary on The Emerald Tablet:
rapidshare.com/files/2841..._tablet.pdf
Here is multiple translations for anyone wishing to study it. This is a book one must contemplate, to read it like you read a text book will reveal little.
rapidshare.com/files/2761..._Hermes.pdf
and here is a very good article on alchemy to make sure you have some essential ideas:
rapidshare.com/files/2841...tenment.pdf
I recommend a new book written by Robert Cox, it is called. "Elixir of Immortality" in this book he reveals how to make the Philosophers Stone as well as gives essential background information.
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Fri, September 25, 2009 - 1:53 AMA small portion of the above article on Alchemy I have posted above:
The Emerald Formula
The foundation of alchemical philosophy and practice is reflected in nature's elements and universal
pattern of transformation. The four elements are Earth, Air, Fire, and Water. The seven phase
pattern of transformation is comprised of Calcination, Dissolution, Separation, Conjunction,
Fermentation, Distillation, and Coagulation. This is also known as the Emerald Formula.
The elements are considered by the ancients to be the building blocks of manifest creation. The
elements are not simply the physical elements, but are very broadly defined principles of nature.
The Quintessence or Fifth Element corresponds to the Divine Essence or Essence of God. This
divine essence or elixir was known as Soma, Rasa, or Amrita by the East Indians, Star Fire by the
Sumerians, Ambrosia by the Greeks, Manna, Christos, or Living Water by the Hebrews, and The
Philosophers Stone or Universal Medicine by the Europeans.
The term Elixir stems from the Arabic Aliksir and Greek Xerion which means medicine. The
elements make up the human body and mind. When one masters the five elements, one becomes
an Adept, Siddha, or Perfected One. This is the transformation from mortal to immortal or human to
godlike superhuman known as Apotheosis.
Hermes or Mercury is known as the Messenger of the Gods and is a recurring archetype in history
who restores the knowledge of Divine Union with the absolute. He is traditionally pictured holding
the Caduceus Staff which symbolizes the alchemical process of spiritual liberation. The goddess
Athena is the female counterpart of Mercury.
What is striking when studying the various alchemical traditions from around the world and
throughout history, is that they employ the same basic pattern of transformation mirrored in the
Emerald Formula. Most notably, the Emerald Formula is reflected in the oldest known source book
of knowledge, the Rig Veda of India. Rig means praise and Veda means knowledge. Soma
researcher David Spess points out that all the aspects found in the Soma ceremony of the Rig Veda
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Sat, September 26, 2009 - 6:35 AMalso calcination is not the first step to the philosophers stone the steps are out of sequence.The first step is fermentation in the fire water which breaks down the metals one is using.Its like taking a glass of warm water and taking salt,pour the salt into the water and stir it till its dissolved.Now try some the water is still salty but remains of salt look gone right.Well if you try the water the water has taken up the properties of the salt and the salt is still within the water.With slow application to heat you can bring the salt back from out of the water this process is also what makes the stone.The alchemist drawing "Tabula Smaragdina" tells that fermentation is the begining process I will not go much into detail but lets just say its interesting.I have some copper mixed with steel that was put through certain processes and the end result is it started to transmutate into the substance we know best although not pure yet but it will give others something to look at.I will take a picture of it
soon and let yall know when I post it.In the pic you will see the copper and there is one other metal we used to fuse together and the results well you will see.This is also to prove to others I know what I'm doing.I luv alchemy as I do the spiritual side of it as well all in all I am glade when others are doing the same thing which is the "Great Work" going after the what,why,how, of life.Thnx for the book I will look into it but the one I have been studying alot if yall are interested well one of the many books I have but the name is "Opus Mago-Cabbalisticum Et Theosophicum" by Joseph G. Mcveigh this book reveals much but tucked behind symbolism.I recommend this book to any seriously practicing alchemist as to the secrets within this book are fascinating.The one quote I luv is:
Search and you will find
ask and you shall receive
knock and a door will be opened to you.
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Sat, September 26, 2009 - 7:07 AMThese elaborate manipulations are essentially a meditation on matter. One can make up one's own meditation. Do not limit yourselves to these dusty old formulas. Wing it. -
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Sat, September 26, 2009 - 12:40 PMthats what we did.The whole point is to learn the old way then modify it.The whole reason why is you have to know how the metal is going to react to certain chemicals because some of these experiments will give off fumes that can kill you.Alchemists would draw a road or a tower
and there would be snakes every were but certain spots would not be blocked basically telling someone this path is dangerous and can overcome you if you do not be careful.There are hidden dangers to look out for but once overcome then you will produce something that will forever change your life.Some thought this knowledge was a divine knowledge and only those who were being lead by the spirit would obtain such feats I can say this no one manuscript or book will answer the philosophers stone in one sitting.I had to go through so many books and manuscripts its like the pieces to a puzzle.I luv solving stuff like this I take pride going after the impossible and solving secrets because you never know what your going to find.But the one thing I like about the experiment is the matter ie...molecules in the experiment die and when I mean die I mean the molecules are dead then as you progress in the experiment you bring back the molecules but they revive to a higher vibration then when the stone starts to congeal the matter reforms and solidifies into gold.The metals worked with are the impure forms of what make up gold your just making them pure again but in a week. -
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Sat, September 26, 2009 - 2:48 PMThe ancient books are to give you hints and yes your absolutely correct that your own intuition is what is required to complete the task. Also working with metals in one path, internal alchemy or yoga was created as a alternative method when the science of alchemy was lost.
So there is multiple ways to achieve the goal of enlightenment.
I encourage you to always follow your heart and keep on the path.
Have either of you tried ormus? Ormus is one of the first steps towards the philosophers stone but still the great work is much further and requires the alchemist to be spiritually pure. People not in tune cannot make the elixir of immortality.
I have more books to share if anyone is interested.
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Sat, September 26, 2009 - 3:58 PMWell if it's not your thing to pursue that is understandable. But scholars who have read the ancient Vedic texts all recognize that alchemy was the original science and meditative yoga came last. Not all yoga, as Yoga of sound is pre alchemy and meditative yoga...
The Philosophers Stone is a new term for the elixir and it takes much more then I can say in this box. But we can keep plugging away here if anyone is curious...
If enlightenment is a true and honest possibility why would you limit the ways to approach it? I don't think limitations are the essence of ultimate awareness. If all is one and earth is part of this oneness then what is it your disagreeing with?
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Sat, September 26, 2009 - 5:30 PMEnlightenment brings the philosopher's stone. -
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Sat, September 26, 2009 - 8:00 PMAs above so, so below.
Yes your absolutely correct, one cannot make the philosophers stone without being enlightened. The process is a external yoga meditation. But with one small little detail, you will have proof by have the Philosophers Stone, or elixir of immortality. Also immortality is not simply the old notion of vital health and well being but freedom from re-birth.
If one is not enlightened you can have the recipe and it will never work for you...
You need not believe, I don't think faith has anything to do with it. But many are currently on the verge of re-discovering this knowledge and many will never pursue it as it is difficult, complex work with dangerous substances.
I recommend a new book just out called "Elixir of Immortality" by Robert Cox, he gives a very good over view of alchemy and details on making the Stone. He is a vedic scholar and alchemist.
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Sat, September 26, 2009 - 8:03 PMPersonally, I find "enlightenment" to be a word and an idea that gets in the way. -
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Sat, September 26, 2009 - 9:00 PMEnlightenment is no more than waking up from the slumber we call life to higher possibilities.Enlightenment to me is the process of waking
the subconscious to the objective reality and opening the door to further understanding that their is higher things in life that exist.Just because you can't see them does not mean they do not exist.Enlightenment enables you to communicate to this divine essence and learn to understand it.And in so doing you might understand lifes hidden question.Why were we created.................simple if you ask me just think about it for a moment.Life was created as an experiment to test the creativity of GOD or what ever you wish to call him.Of course if you were a GOD would you want to sit all alone it gets boring after a while.I can tell you we were not the first things in this universe created.Life was just formed to just live thats it just live and understand survival grow and to learn how this process was created or you can just live and die its all up to you.No one sticks a gun to your head and says "Hey you must figure this out" or what is the purpose of life?Life is to just live and live to the fullest.Whatever you wish to become you can there are no limits to what you can achieve.Not everyone wishes to be awakened because they are nervous in what they may find.You may find that religion is totally wrong and just used to make money.Truth comes in all forms and pure truth will sometimes go against what you believe because not everything you are taught is truth.This path is for everyone but only those who can survive the impact.This path will not call out you must look for it.If not then just go watch T.V and work your job and grow old and die thats it.But certain few wish to know more and its by these questions and instinct that drives us for the quest of searching because while you search Weird things will happen.To some it can scare you but to others it fuels the fire for more its just up to you whether you can handle the ride or not.
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Sat, September 26, 2009 - 9:17 PMand no enlightenment does not bring the stone.The stone is sought after only by people who know about it.But few obtain it because in wealth
there lies a hidden destruction and if the divine soul knows you will not survive this test then you obtaining it will never happen thats why this knowledge was hidden behind symbols and pictures and ramblings because it was meant to be hidden from criminals or from people who would use this to evil ends think about it.Give this to a criminal and its like endless money think about it would you give a nuclear bomb to your enemy.The stone has many aspects but is only sought after by those who wish to obtain it because in this one can fund money to a good purpose and fund better research for cures or by building children shelters you name it.Like I said in history you will find the alchemists who succeeded in the stone because they went from very poor to all of a sudden they were building churches and donating money to feed the hungry or the such.In so doing this if one can not handle such responsibility then how will you obtain the ultimate responsibility of the divine soul that I have written about in here.With reward comes great responsibility but the divine soul and obtaining it is like making someone a president only giving them ruler-ship over much more than just the physical plan and giving them a GOD like power such a position is why the devil fell it was not the devil tempting the devil it was he had absolute power because he was GODS son what father would not give their children the same gift then place them ruler over everything.In this came great responsibility and he failed and in so doing once he fell this position was opened to us being made heirs I cannot go into detail here as it would be too lengthy.All I can say is in life we all make decisions and its by these choices that we climb or become destroyed the journey is up to us and you make that journey along the way.How ruff or smooth you wish to make it relies in your own way you live it. -
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Sat, September 26, 2009 - 10:45 PMSolari, your the one who mentioned enlightenment, so I just carried on from there. I am intrigued by what it is your considering. Can you explain?
Enlightenment does not bring the stone, but the stone cannot be created unless your enlightened. Does that make sense? I know people who are extremely spiritual and to my way of thinking they are adepts but they do not know how to make the Stone and are attempting to find out. They are rare and few and many who have found spiritual path's simply don't stray further and seek more. I cannot say why some will, but I do... It seems like perfect nonsense to most people. I am aware how it may seem. I do not wish to convince only to say there is more to life then meets the eyes.
Can you believe this current reality we are now living. I mean our modern society and ways of making a living etc. Is all hogwash and a few discovered some secrets and stole most of humanities souls...perhaps re-discovering alchemy will begin to free people from this constraining, manipulating madness called current civilization. Hmmm wow! i went off the deep end on that one hehehe but it is so true. If you have the heart to see it I am sure you will.
I have this belief system because of experiences I have had. I am also a stubborn fool who never believed in spiritual airy fairy stuff but I had my eyes forcibly opened and I caught a glimpse. ;-)
Alchemy is the science of raising vibrations...
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Sat, September 26, 2009 - 11:41 PM"Alchemy is the science of raising vibrations."
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Sun, September 27, 2009 - 9:59 AMI am posting in my pics on my profile the starting transmutation of the stone I will take more shots later just go to my homepage and look in my pics you will see the copper object but how we got it this way I will not tell but those who are interested in seeing something awesome go look and enjoy I do this for all those who search and never find keep on going. -
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Sun, September 27, 2009 - 10:28 AMwell photo's are too big for tribe so I posted them on my yahoo page here is the link and trust me it is 100% virus free let me know if you get this link right
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Sun, September 27, 2009 - 2:04 PMOk I guess link is not going to work try this one it is my yahoo group I'm tring to start join me if you like but you should be able to view photo's from here
groups.yahoo.com/group/Stoneofthewise/
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Sun, September 27, 2009 - 2:19 PMok I got it now in my tribe profile pic folder check it out sorry for all the messages had to modify pic to fit tribe.There are two pics of the item in my hand it is copper and other things that fused and is in the process of transmutating to gold.I do this for all the non believers this is something to look at and think about.Like I said for those who search and do it with a good heart much will be found.
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Mon, October 19, 2009 - 12:32 AMThis thread survives.
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Mon, October 19, 2009 - 12:48 AMI was quite impressed by your offering to this thread.
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Re: The Philosopher's Stone
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 12:54 AMthank you!
some of them (concepts) by nature, transcend understanding at lower levels of being. :) so are they there? yes. communicating them fluently to all people is the problem. -
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Re: The Philosopher's Stone
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 1:41 AMFluency.. flow.. liquidity.. I am not in the same mindset as when I posted that, by lengths and bounds.
I want to post your photo from that thread in TOU Watchdog where the naked woman in astride the beast. Too lazy to find that.
How about the Crowley Tarot Card: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Babalon.jpg
What is this about? Is it truly sexual? Chalice? You had some good ones in those threads.
Ideas escape... but:
To list...
male/female
life/death
light/dark
subject/object
here/there
above/below
inside/outside
see/ be perceived
How is unity of observed symbols synthesized? I thought that actually life here is death, from a different perspective. I think Crowleyan submersion in sex is but a refusal to think in the standardized ways that this average lot thinks in. 'Everything Is Permitted', but where, for what reasons, with what repercussions, and who has tickets, who's invited, and it the master of ceremonies actually in attendance?
At what point did this become sexualized, in the manner of a 'receptacle' for male energy, in the form of a female, and *why do we think that way*? Why the insistence on human sexual? Is it a prison for the mind?
"How is unity of observed symbols synthesized?"
There are many grey areas, no? And so I think there are regions where one can cohabit in the sense of identifying with both sides of such dualities, and often, as I've said for a very long time, to believe or strictly restrict the formulation of these polarities as human male and female sexual is a hamstringing of the thought process. Not feeling creative enough to come up with other joined ideas to that list. Maybe later.
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Re: The Philosopher's Stone
Mon, October 19, 2009 - 1:45 AMWhy does the term "subject" imply by its prefix a subjugation (in the proper context of choice of definition and interpretation) to the "object", and why? Subject is often interpreted as "I", but a sentence has to have a predicate. -
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Re: The Philosopher's Stone
Tue, October 20, 2009 - 10:34 PMI like the way it's discussed in the vedas. The interplay of opposing forces in the universe is called the Dance of Shiva. Another fascinating way to look at it is to check out Taoism and Read
The Tao Te Ching
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All under heaven see beauty as beauty only because they also see ugliness.
All announce that good is good only because they also denounce what is bad.
Therefore, something and nothing give birth to one another.
Difficult and easy complete one another.
Long and short fashion one another.
High and low arise from one another.
Notes and tones harmonise with one another.
Front and back follow one another.
Thus, the True Person acts without striving and teaches without words.
Deny nothing to the ten thousand things.
Nourish them without claiming authority,
Benefit them without demanding gratitude,
Do the work, then move on.
And, the fruits of your labour will last forever."
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Re: The Philosopher's Stone
Wed, October 21, 2009 - 1:56 AMThats an awesome post Rick that phrase says alot I happen to also agree.Life is what you make it not what controls it the only person who controls their destiny is the person in the mirror.And as far as symbols go to the other post they are but expressions of meaning for something hidden if you can awaken the symbol you awaken something that lies hidden and once opened great things can be achieved.In one symbol words could write a book but to the uninitiated its just a drawing and means nothing but to the trained eye one symbol can say enough deppending on what your looking for.
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