http://alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#8d415517-f524-417e-9e39-3a7e00f4eef2 Intent and a spiritual perspective have everything to do with it. In fact if one was to share the actual recipe how to make ormus, most would make something that had little impact. People cannot steal spiritual knowledge, they can steal information or physical things but there will be no understanding within them so it's a useless. If people have the recipe for making the philosophers stone, most would have nothing. Because one must be spiritual evolved and have some sort of insight first. Not to say they could not benifit from taking the elixir, even a fool would benifit but a fool cannot make it. ;-) The recipe is available by the way and I can and will tell people where to begin if they wish. Not my writing, but a few current and good books are one place to start... peace Rick Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:38:14 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#8d415517-f524-417e-9e39-3a7e00f4eef2 Rick 2009-09-23T05:38:14Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#35cd906f-657e-4811-a2c3-5b9aa9185c0e I've become wary of some people i have met via this tribe and another. i wouldn't of course mind information, but something makes me a bit wary. i'm experimenting with my own ormus, yes. i have not tried seekverta's red gold elixr. mine is red-violet, depending on heat and such. i had someone recently steal a more than needed amount from me, and heard tell, that after she ran out, and tried other ones on the market with the same tech, she still prefers mine. Intent has alot to do with it. Wed, 23 Sep 2009 01:36:47 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#35cd906f-657e-4811-a2c3-5b9aa9185c0e Flint 2009-09-23T01:36:47Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#dfd0d4b2-be13-466f-8e92-c56a7a9f2abe I don't mean to come across like a jerk when I laugh. I am only trying to be light. I love all opinions as knowledge grows from everything we encounter in life. Anyway there is white lion and red lion. White Lion is mostly the more common ormus and Yes pure Gold is of the highest vibration and nature. Ormus or monatomic Gold is very good. But again to make the higher quality elixir is not simple and most of that information is just barely seeping into modern life now. So when making ormus you can work with a variety of elements like Gold, Silver, Copper etc. The most spiritual is Gold and the Red Lion is the ultimate version of working with Gold. Flint your very evolved person. I am not, I am just turning on to much very quickly all because of ormus. Do you make ormus? Would you like some info on making the Red Lion? ;-) I would love to try some of your elixirs. Have you tried Seekverta's Red Gold Elixir? Quite good. peace Rick Wed, 23 Sep 2009 01:21:50 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#dfd0d4b2-be13-466f-8e92-c56a7a9f2abe Rick 2009-09-23T01:21:50Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#c4d5e113-f60d-401d-ab95-f27ca82bd4d0 since i started making my own, my mind has been provided with details for more effective means and equipment. old equipment is cumbersome, like old tesla tower coils, but produces more powerful effects, in a larger spectrum. Modern equipment is of very good quality, and the times are shortened, but i am not all that sure that is desireable. the maturing of a medicine concurrent with the maturing of the person employing the work, is a sounder formula to build upon. Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:43:00 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#c4d5e113-f60d-401d-ab95-f27ca82bd4d0 Flint 2009-09-22T20:43:00Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#0ee1c2cb-8d4c-4f8b-b66a-c00ffa692f00 ormus from gold is superior. Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:39:05 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#0ee1c2cb-8d4c-4f8b-b66a-c00ffa692f00 Flint 2009-09-22T20:39:05Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#c4a2e0dd-d933-4609-9cb1-58e3bc9d6fb9 ormus can be made from sea salt. if you read alchemy books it says that the prima materia is everywhere and everyone can access it easily. I am amazed this is a alchemy forum isn't it? hahaha Has anyone here ever tried or made ormus? I like to tell people I have had discussions things like. For example when discussing the Bible. You notice everyone has a opinion...well I ask. Have you read the Bible, I mean really read it all? Most say no...so I reply. How can you have a opinion! Same with alchemy, many have opinions and are quite informed on many subjects and are quite astute, But! Have they read and or studied alchemy? If the answer is no, hmm then you have no opinion yet! hahaha...read or learn in some way then we discuss your opinion... peace Rick Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:23:48 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#c4a2e0dd-d933-4609-9cb1-58e3bc9d6fb9 Rick 2009-09-22T20:23:48Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#bf42111d-7059-4155-b45f-9818293147b7 Thats why you have to prepare your own gold product, so many are charlatans. i trust few sources for gold. and some of the input here, is questionable on this subject, as one of the contributors is an alt, with another agenda. When figuring out who it was, i am in severe doubt over some of his contributions. oh well. make your own! Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:19:07 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#bf42111d-7059-4155-b45f-9818293147b7 Flint 2009-09-19T19:19:07Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#5cd3a75b-a14c-499b-baff-60ca1f9dfe41 Aren't they something to do with white gold? I remember a lecture by some guy, the name evades me at the moment, but he mentioned them and how he was able to convert lead or something into a white gold, or a white powder gold. I think its all bogus, but some people are really selling it and its expensive stuff. I bought it some of this white powder gold. It came with lots of information concerning the process that was scientific, most of which I dont understand. But ultimately, following the directions in how to take it and meditations it offered, I found 0 effects. Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:08:04 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#5cd3a75b-a14c-499b-baff-60ca1f9dfe41 Sabbatic Goat of Mendes 2009-09-19T19:08:04Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#d3c04851-e94c-4a6c-acba-0265d76a6221 zptech is ok , certainly not the best. I know a few much better but will refrain from posting such info. ask me in private if any is curious. also you can make it yourself, there is a new book available on amazon made by some members of the info group mentioned in this discussion. it's relatively easy to make and it's a step towards alchemy but not a full on dive into the depth's of the real work. peace Rick Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:58:42 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#d3c04851-e94c-4a6c-acba-0265d76a6221 Rick 2009-09-04T08:58:42Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#287d8699-1268-444c-ba82-e646f5413cce you make good products, but that was a spam there, buddy. i don't do that with mine. Thu, 07 May 2009 01:58:00 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#287d8699-1268-444c-ba82-e646f5413cce Flint 2009-05-07T01:58:00Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#726372df-60b0-4354-92d7-62174e079ce9 The best ORME's are produced by Zero Point Technologies @ http://zptech.eu Great Ascension Stuff! Thu, 07 May 2009 01:47:03 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#726372df-60b0-4354-92d7-62174e079ce9 Sander 2009-05-07T01:47:03Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#5dc38709-9396-4e22-b334-2542e61edf93 Thanks again, Solari, for the information. I have my apparatus to produce the water soluble gold now (good stuff), so i will be experimenting with your orme traps, and will report back my conculsions after the work. Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:48:37 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#5dc38709-9396-4e22-b334-2542e61edf93 Flint 2009-03-24T19:48:37Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#030ac3de-7e60-4189-be4e-e7e3bd74c479 Just so everyone knows there are some good videos about this on google video by laurence gardener, david hudson and barry something or other, the guy who makes the water traps Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:04:25 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#030ac3de-7e60-4189-be4e-e7e3bd74c479 Patrick 2009-01-15T06:04:25Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#b9900af5-58da-4081-9374-b560cf67c94a When I asked I hadn't formulated any specific questions, rather was curious if the greater tribe alchemy community had exposure or experience with it. I am also studying this subject under the guidance of someone who has followed David Hudson's research and is pretty known in the ORMUS communities. The questions I have are if anyone has had good or bad experiences and if a discussion group regarding alchemy could offer insight to the subject. Has anyone tried feeding it to spirulina or worms in a compost bed yet? Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:19:04 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#b9900af5-58da-4081-9374-b560cf67c94a Mana 2009-01-10T21:19:04Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#68ec4822-2117-4642-bc4f-c45fc99ed6bc When I asked I hadn't formulated any specific questions, rather was curious if the greater tribe alchemy community had exposure or experience with it. I am also studying this subject under the guidance of someone who has followed David Hudson's research and is pretty known in the ORMUS communities. The questions I have are if anyone has had good or bad experiences and if a discussion group regarding alchemy could offer insight to the subject. Has anyone tried feeding it to spirulina or worms in a compost bed yet? Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:18:04 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#68ec4822-2117-4642-bc4f-c45fc99ed6bc Mana 2009-01-10T21:18:04Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#739b6271-9bef-4572-b406-916bda5ee2ad Very nice, thank you for the information. something to work on. :) Wed, 07 Jan 2009 21:07:34 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#739b6271-9bef-4572-b406-916bda5ee2ad Flint 2009-01-07T21:07:34Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#5d1057a7-be47-4244-8213-091d98d816b6 A vortex is not really necessary. http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/magneticalteration.htm http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/stratifying.htm Bo Long Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:22:13 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#5d1057a7-be47-4244-8213-091d98d816b6 Solari 2009-01-07T15:22:13Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#bf3bd9a3-c1e5-4bf2-a3e8-8ec1e7c26048 I cant really say what effect running gold colloid through it would have, I would guess that the most ORME like atoms would go to the collection bottle so that you could get the best of the best of the colloid. I am not sure how it would make it more bondable but i suppose its possible the structure may change and become more "patterned". I cant really say I have little first hand experience with ORME or colloids. But i suppose what you could do is test the recycled colloid stuff to some control group of colloids. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 12:46:28 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#bf3bd9a3-c1e5-4bf2-a3e8-8ec1e7c26048 Patrick 2009-01-06T12:46:28Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#6c0134c8-6d02-41cd-af83-83eb9cbe1751 certain plants 'yield' to particular noble metals. so i have fed some medicine plants ion solutions of minerals, but specifically the gold-platinum-rhodium family. Perhaps orme water would upstep this process, for strength and purification of the body of the matter. Sat, 03 Jan 2009 04:06:03 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#6c0134c8-6d02-41cd-af83-83eb9cbe1751 Flint 2009-01-03T04:06:03Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#4c529047-c3f7-4f2f-905a-19e0179ca238 i grow asian tonics and medicine plants, so i have a use for orme water for the plants as well. some species of rose specialize in extracting gold from certain volcanic deposites Sat, 03 Jan 2009 04:02:53 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#4c529047-c3f7-4f2f-905a-19e0179ca238 Flint 2009-01-03T04:02:53Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#58b225d7-59d7-47db-98dc-4a88a48a00d6 So i'm wondering, Patrick, if there would be any significant addition to say, running gold colloid in a recycling loop, thru this type of device. Do you think it would make the colloids and ions more 'bondable' and 'patterned'? Sat, 03 Jan 2009 04:00:42 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#58b225d7-59d7-47db-98dc-4a88a48a00d6 Flint 2009-01-03T04:00:42Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#ff1c0fb0-9836-409b-8fd2-9d33649defa2 Thanks alot Patrick, i appreciate it! A fun project to work on. Fri, 02 Jan 2009 20:22:50 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#ff1c0fb0-9836-409b-8fd2-9d33649defa2 Flint 2009-01-02T20:22:50Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#131cdef3-e040-47c8-8136-5442b4f137d7 Well, I am in korea right now and its at home which is why i havent tried it out yet, I will be back in a month and a half so you can look on the link for building directions for a number of "water traps which also has pictures. Mine is a bit different then the ones on here, though its most like the "vortrap". Its quite simple and could be made easily assuming you have a pretty powerful magnet. The one on my device is from a big speaker. All it is, is a hose that screws to the end of a garden hose from which another hose end comes off of it at 90 degrees so that there are now two ways for water to go out like the letter T. You screw a plastic pop bottle onto the end of one so that it is sealed well, this will collect the ormus water. There is a big circular magnet around the hose on other water outlet (the bottom of the T) so that all the ORME is pushed away from that exit, the air in the bottle keeps it from being filled with all the water. Thinking about it, it seems that all the water would go into the bottle but i know it doesnt, the guy who made it said he used it successfully and that the plants he watered with the ORME water did better then the control plants. I think I am remembering this correctly as it has been a number of months. At any rate from this design you can see that theres going to be quite a bit of non OMRE water running off so i suppose you should do something to avoid just wasting it, like watering your lawn or something, use the ORME water for yourself or a few special plants you may have. I would like to see a shower head design so that the "waste" water would have some use, assuming of course you like to shower, so far i havent seen any designs .http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/magtrap.htm Fri, 02 Jan 2009 12:46:16 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#131cdef3-e040-47c8-8136-5442b4f137d7 Patrick 2009-01-02T12:46:16Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#2f47c88c-edb5-423f-8f46-99202ac8b5cc i gotta agree with that last sentence. Hey, could you take pictures of the device? It would be intresting for sure. Fri, 02 Jan 2009 00:07:34 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#2f47c88c-edb5-423f-8f46-99202ac8b5cc Flint 2009-01-02T00:07:34Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#45c0c561-3519-44d0-bdcc-d3984217188b If you look in the alchemy section of the book by Manly P Hall, the hidden teachings of all ages it gives ancient alchemist method for the preparation of this stuff from sea salt, the whole book is worth reading IMO but that part is very interesting. There are other ways to extract it some easier then others but the easy methods dont work as well. You can make a simple apparatus that will separate it from hose water somewhat by using magnets and a T joint so that all the non ormus water goes out one end the ormus solution goes out the other. I have one, some random guy made it for me and then promptly disappeared, but i have yet to try it out, though i know its far from being pure ormus. Seeing as how in the book its basically called the physical philosophers stone and it was written before david hudson discovered it, its probably worth researching. You can get a PDF of the book at scribd.com There are modern methods involving polar solvents that give real pure stuff but i dont know the details of it, from what i know it would be kind of like extracting mescaline but using sea salt instead of cactus. Thu, 01 Jan 2009 11:09:55 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#45c0c561-3519-44d0-bdcc-d3984217188b Patrick 2009-01-01T11:09:55Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#ac24b2e9-d7a8-4dce-8bc7-abddff8f48c7 Yes, I made extensive research on the subject. But what is the question actually ? Would you like to know more about it ? Would you like to share opinion about it ? Etc... Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:01:09 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#ac24b2e9-d7a8-4dce-8bc7-abddff8f48c7 John 2008-12-17T18:01:09Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#0812cdb5-039a-4294-9bf2-d543162547f4 David Hudsons products are/were very good. In particular, i liked the gold and platinum and indium. Wed, 17 Dec 2008 02:52:59 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#0812cdb5-039a-4294-9bf2-d543162547f4 Flint 2008-12-17T02:52:59Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#69c343c7-2e60-48dd-9336-2a3baf44283d Yes. They have interested me for a long time; I just recently have gathered enough funds to make a purchase for some experimentation. If you can find uses for it, (which I leave up to you to find), the results can be absolutely astounding. Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:14:43 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#69c343c7-2e60-48dd-9336-2a3baf44283d Alex 2008-11-02T22:14:43Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#7920a7b7-d0ce-4071-83cb-07d78b27c736 Go to these places: http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/index.htm http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ORMUS/?v=1&t=search&ch=web&pub=groups&sec=group&slk=1 Sun, 02 Nov 2008 20:58:49 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#7920a7b7-d0ce-4071-83cb-07d78b27c736 Solari 2008-11-02T20:58:49Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#7fcba622-d9ad-4aa0-bee3-7591c5e0afd3 no. please inform! Sat, 15 Mar 2008 08:42:31 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#7fcba622-d9ad-4aa0-bee3-7591c5e0afd3 Holden S. 2008-03-15T08:42:31Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#402a0d7d-593f-4b05-9d29-5bbdb2b1da08 Has anyone heard of Orbitally Rearranged Monoatomic Elements? Dr David Hudson's research? Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:35:05 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/d6576b63-3408-4134-b9e7-30868232136d#402a0d7d-593f-4b05-9d29-5bbdb2b1da08 Mana 2008-03-14T23:35:05Z