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BOTA Homophobia

topic posted Mon, September 25, 2006 - 2:58 PM by  Unsubscribed
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I don't ordinarily crosspost, but a thread is developing on "Spiritual Body and Celestial Earth" that some members of this tribe may be interested in. It is about Builders of the Adytum's (B.O.T.A.) policies with respect to higher initiations. I don't view initiations as taking place primarily in ritual work, but in Aesklepian dreamspace, where the hermetic function is all-important. For more, see celestialearth.tribe.net/threa...650b45 .
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  • Re: BOTA Homophobia

    Mon, September 25, 2006 - 11:40 PM
    hmmm....don't know what this has directly to do with *alchemy* per se, but...i 'll just go ahead & volunteer that homophobic organizations & worldviews religious or secular have my pure SCORN and CONTEMPT.
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      Re: BOTA Homophobia

      Fri, September 29, 2006 - 9:47 AM
      Holden,

      B.O.T.A holds itself out to the public as a mystery school offering instruction in alchemy. Initiation into the mystery school tradition requires receptivity and trust. If you are a sexual minority and/or are committed to promoting social justice, there is reason to question B.O.T.A.'s worthiness on both counts. I posted this because thought that this might be of interest to some of the people here who, like yourself, share these values.

      The link to the thread in SBACE provides evidence showing that BOTA's exclusionary policy was kept secret from BOTA's membership as of 1990 and possibly as late as 1997. The rationale for this policy is elucidated by a former officer in B.O.T.A., whose letter claiming that barring gays from higher initiations was an "act of mercy" is available for public viewing. I believe that B.O.T.A.'s justification for this destructive policy was pretextual and that the real driver was homophobia. The thread contains a number of cogently presented arguments that support that view.

      B.O.T.A.'s policy can hardly be kept secret from its membership or the public anymore. In September 2006, I asked B.O.T.A. to publicly repudiate this policy and clarify whether it is still in effect. What I am endeavoring to do in these crossposts and other posts on the Internet is force the issue from an advocacy perspective. Updates will follow as appropriate.
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        Re: BOTA Homophobia

        Sun, October 1, 2006 - 9:15 AM
        Michael, thank you for bringing this to light. The thread was worth reading and such cross-posts are welcome here. I also appreciate your clarity in avoiding repetition and attempting to keep the conversation to one central list.

        May your objectives be reached; I certainly agree that any order with categorically exclusive policies should be utterly upfront and continually transparent about those exlusions. Please do keep us posted, here in this tribe, when B.O.T.A. either officially repudiates the policy or publicly admits/upholds it.

        As moderator of this tribe, I would encourage any affiliate groups represented here to be completely clear about their policies. This particular tribe is open and welcoming to different traditions, and as moderator it is my intention to hold a respectful space for diversity and dialogue.
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          Re: BOTA Homophobia

          Sun, October 1, 2006 - 10:00 AM
          Liz,

          Thanks so much for your affirmative and supportive response. An organization can be racist. homophobic--you name it--but that is not the issue. You spoke to the real issue, which has to do with transparency. Mystery Schools can't hold themselves forward as having an "open door" while hiding the fact that the door is closed to a certain group of people by virtue of its race, ethnicity, gender identity or sexual orientation. It's bad enough when this occurs in "country club" settings, where patterns of discrimination are all but expected to be dismissed with a wink and a nod. It's many times worse when it happens in an initiatory tradition such as B.O.T.A.

          I am reminded of Leonard Cohen's lyrics to "Suzanne," where the Anima image is healing and the Mirror that she hold up to you is True. When the image that an initatory group holds up to its membership is distorted by unacknowledged homophobia, it only serves to reinforce doubts and self-loathing in some of these members. This occurs on an astral level, and it is very destructive Add to that the fact that affected members are also excluded from the more powerful esoteric levels, and you have a real problem.

          If B.O.T.A. wishes to remain a community of bigots, that's fine with me. If its reasons for taking that stance are couched in the same terms as Joseph Nolan's letter to me, then B.O.T.A.'s circular logic and self-serving hypocrisy need to be exposed. If B.O.T.A. continue to try to bury this issue and maintain a policy of non-transparency, that also needs to be exposed.

          I'm a big fan in strategic initiatives that actually go somewhere, rather than flash in the pan "feel good" affairs. I can do this alone or I can do this with others. I myself wrote LIsa Dawn, who is a minister of B.O.T.A., on Iona Miller's Qabalah pod on Zaadz. I asked her to carry my message back to her superiors and to let them know this is now very public. It would also be good if some of the other people here wrote to B.O.T.A. as well (BOTA's address is easily brought up in a Google search). It doesn't matter whether you're straight or gay, but only that you recognize that this is an important social justice issue and care enough to want to DO something.

          Shalom/Salaam,

          Michael


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            Re: BOTA Homophobia

            Fri, October 13, 2006 - 12:10 PM
            Far from repudiating any policy of discrimination and homophobia, BOTA appears to be entering into a war on this issue and deleting the insertion I have made on Wikipedia. I have now deleted everything they had on Wikipedia and will repost on a daily basis:

            "Initiation into the mystery school tradition requires receptivity and trust, and there is reason to question B.O.T.A.'s worthiness on both counts. See / "B.O.T.A.'s Pink Triangle of Prejudice" on tribe.net for an illuminating and disturbing thread regarding B.O.T.A.'s policy of excluding sexual minorities from Inner Order initiations that are offered to heterosexual members. This link provides evidence showing that this policy was kept secret from BOTA's membership as of 1990 and possibly as late as 1997. The rationale for this policy is elucidated by a former officer in B.O.T.A., whose / letter claiming that barring gays from higher initiations was an "act of mercy" is available for public viewing. The originator of this thread claims that B.O.T.A.'s justification for this destructive policy was pretextual and that the real driver was homophobia. The thread contains a number of cogently presented arguments that support that view. B.O.T.A.'s policy can hardly be kept secret from its membership or the public anymore. In September 2006, B.O.T.A. was asked to publicly repudiate this policy and clarify whether it is still in effect. Updates will follow as appropriate. Note that BOTA appaarently keeps deleting this post, which is against Wikipedia policy. Each time it gets deleted, I will delete one of their blurbs."
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              Re: BOTA Homophobia

              Fri, November 24, 2006 - 12:15 PM
              Update:

              After two months--during which I contacted B.O.T.A. about this issue vis vis one of their so-called "minsters" and posted the issue on Wikipedia, only to see B.O.T.A. ostensibly delete it--B.O.T,A, has not deigned to refute the charge of covert but very real homophobia and prejudice.

              One may reasonable assume that B.O.T.A. continues to practice this secret discriminatory policy and, because it speaks of "inclusiveness" in the Outer Order, continues its display of hypocrisy.
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                Re: BOTA Homophobia

                Fri, November 24, 2006 - 9:10 PM
                I just saw an ad by B.O.T.A. on Tribe.

                I kid you not, sometime in the aftermath of my posts, providing evidence that B.O.T.A. is both homophobic and hypocritical, it has started to advertise on Tribe. It has not, as I previously noted, denied the allegations. Not to me or on any Tribe I know of, at least. Evidence exists, after all, delivered by one of the highest B.O.T.A. officers within the Inner Order (he since left, but this was the real deal, and he was telling the truth, which subsequently got him in deep trouble with God within B.O.T.A.). But has B.O.T.A. recanted? Apparently not.

                The ad thingy is really pretty funny, not to mention flattering. Could it be that B.O.T.A. has an unhealthy interest in this thread? If that is so, I would invite them to inspect other writing that this rather amused queer writer has published. AT least on Tribe. More is in the pipeline, babies.

                Anyway, the secret's out. Pisces is rapidly slipping behind us (we still have a ways to go), and even if B.O.T.A succeeded with its ads--sorta like Army recruiters inviting kids to pleasant vacation in Iraq--truth will win out and, additionally, the need for Mystery Schools is rapidly waning. I feel no victory here. Like Job, I didn't create the precession. But hey, kiddies, the Gold will be available. The eidetic awareness. The awakening at many, many levels. No one has a monopoly on it. Not anymore.

                And hypocrisy won't wash.
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                  Re: BOTA Homophobia

                  Fri, November 24, 2006 - 9:30 PM
                  There is a possibility, of course, that the Google-sent ad from B.O.T.A. landed on SBACE because we mentioned B.O.T.A. in a thread. Ads are sometimes smart, like bombs. One should never take one's ideas of reference too seriously, after all.

                  Regardless of what its motives might have been--I have no desire to read B.O.T.A.'s mind, thank you--what I said was true. If they are not listening, Gonzales and Bush probably are. If B.O.T.A. is listening in, let me tell you that ridicule is sometimes the perfect weapon, or the perfect foil.

                  Abracadabra, poof, poof, poof. . . .

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