http://alchemical.tribe.net/thread/2133d82e-d80a-4668-8f64-4e7d5eee4138?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/2133d82e-d80a-4668-8f64-4e7d5eee4138#d906b795-99d8-4821-af41-602112d65127 Wands - intention Cups - recpetivity Swords - discernment, intelligence Pentacles - Effect/Gain ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ thanx, Phillip ~ that is the most clear way I have ever seen the suits defined love all-ways, mem Mon, 13 Jul 2009 20:32:26 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/2133d82e-d80a-4668-8f64-4e7d5eee4138#d906b795-99d8-4821-af41-602112d65127 MaryEllen 2009-07-13T20:32:26Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/2133d82e-d80a-4668-8f64-4e7d5eee4138#6de9d20f-1a67-4b78-9ac8-162f2b42065c We have thousands of intentions flowing around in our minds, but somehow, either consciously or unconsciously, we RECEIVE that intention, ACCEPT it, and then in flows into 'intelligence' how we think about that thing, about ourselves and the world in relationship to it. Do we discern whether this was an intention we wanted to enact, or not? Kind of a 'second chance' our intelligence plays out for us. Then, the final step, effect, gain, the manifestatin of that original intention. This is going on all the time in consciousness, we just aren't looking at it, watching it play out, so we are manifesting CONSTANTLY strange intentions that aren't our true desire. Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:35:26 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/2133d82e-d80a-4668-8f64-4e7d5eee4138#6de9d20f-1a67-4b78-9ac8-162f2b42065c Phillip 2009-07-13T08:35:26Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/2133d82e-d80a-4668-8f64-4e7d5eee4138#e95f2f79-6ea6-4c10-bbe5-98200cd9c952 Each of the 'Aces', for instance, becomes a fascinating study, for you have the essential symbol of the Western Esotieric mystical/magical tradition, the Wand, the Cup, the Sword, or Dagger, and the Pentacle, or 'Coin' (the 'coin' given to the three men in Jesus' gospels, as a message about 'talents'?). Each ot these, then becomes a symbol of these worlds and their essential characteristics in consciousness. Wands - intention Cups - recpetivity Swords - discernment, intelligence Pentacles - Effect/Gain It is the flow of consiousness into reality. We just think we're separate from the flow of what his happening, but when we watch this play in consciousness, we see that all is the arising of OUR OWN energy. Fascinating, isn't it? Mon, 13 Jul 2009 08:31:44 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/2133d82e-d80a-4668-8f64-4e7d5eee4138#e95f2f79-6ea6-4c10-bbe5-98200cd9c952 Phillip 2009-07-13T08:31:44Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/2133d82e-d80a-4668-8f64-4e7d5eee4138#ad6c6d11-a8c5-44ef-9c7a-9cbcd5e41a72 One way to look at the Tarot Trumps for a mystical contemplation is to examine them in the context of a movement of energy between the Sephirot and between worlds. Each of the ten trumps, then represents one of the ten Sephirot in each of the four worlds, Wands, Atzilut, Cups, Beriyah, Swords, Yetzirah, and Pentacles, or "Coins" Assiyah. Each Trump then changes its meaning slightly in relationship, just as each Sephirot is 'colored' by the world in which it operates, as well as the interactions of energy with other Sephirot. In order to make the transfer of an interaction from Sephirot to an interaction between worlds, one must simply contemplate each world over lapping the other, Malkut of the world above sharing Tiphereth of the world below (this would make Daath the Yesod of the world above... interesting resolution of Daath, huh?). So, play with that a bit if you like and let us know what you come up with. Phillip Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:36:43 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/2133d82e-d80a-4668-8f64-4e7d5eee4138#ad6c6d11-a8c5-44ef-9c7a-9cbcd5e41a72 Phillip 2009-07-01T20:36:43Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/2133d82e-d80a-4668-8f64-4e7d5eee4138#84ac9b48-7453-4c74-9824-7dba9da7a6e2 oops I meant suits, not court! But might be interesting to look at the process with court cards? Princess of Wands Prince of Wands Knight of Wands Knight of Disks Queen of Disks Princess of Disks Prince of Swords Queen of Swords Princess of Swords Queen of Cups Princess of Cups Prince of Cups maybe, maybe not? This one was off the top of my head, whereas the previous one took a little study and thought. Peace, Ron Adams Fr Sabaechit Sunwolf Mon, 13 Apr 2009 06:18:21 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/2133d82e-d80a-4668-8f64-4e7d5eee4138#84ac9b48-7453-4c74-9824-7dba9da7a6e2 Ron 2009-04-13T06:18:21Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/2133d82e-d80a-4668-8f64-4e7d5eee4138#194d3161-a8c8-4005-a340-d82df3a6a1f4 I took a different route, using the court cards: 8 Wands Swiftness 5 Wands Strife 10 Wands Oppression 4 Disks Power 6 Disks Success 8 Disks Prudence 2 Swords Peace 9 Swords Cruelty 10 Swords Ruin 3 Cups Abundance 6 Cups Pleasure 9 Cups Happiness Peace and Love, Fr Sabaechit Sunwolf Ron Adams Mon, 13 Apr 2009 06:14:39 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/2133d82e-d80a-4668-8f64-4e7d5eee4138#194d3161-a8c8-4005-a340-d82df3a6a1f4 Ron 2009-04-13T06:14:39Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/2133d82e-d80a-4668-8f64-4e7d5eee4138#2a466835-e24b-43e7-b4e4-29ac7f755c1c Aleister Crowley's "The Book of Thoth", his discussion of the Tarot (especially the deck he designed and made by the hand of Lady Frieda Harris) contains vast amounts of information on occult lore of every kind: numerology, astrology, color symbolism, geomancy, QBL and, yes, alchemy. His notes on the Temperance or, in his deck, Art card with its references to VITRIOL are most enlightening, although, like much of his work, it is necessary to study and work with the material for some time to come to full understanding of it. He gives hints rather than a step-by-step manual and the student is expected to use these notes to discover the truth for himself. Only in this way, can anyone truly understand the mysteries. So "The Book of Thoth" gives us an initiation through the medium of words, as the Tarot is an initiation by the medium of images. And surely the fact that Crowley renamed the Temperance Trump, calling it "Art", may be understood as a reference to the Royal Art of Alchemy. The path of wisdom is long and winding, full of hints that will rest, forgotten, until some future date at which a "chance" incident will suddenly reveal the truth behind all the hints and open the narrow hunam mind to the full glory of divinity. As the "Book of the Law" puts it: "thou hast all in the clear light, and some, though not all, in the dark." The meaning of this just now became clear to me two sentences back. The placing of light before dark is a bit misleading. The darkness of ignorance should come before the light of initiation. Once you look at it from the point of the IAO formula, it becomes clear that the initial, Isis phase, is when we first read the text and don't understand it. The hints contained in the words drop down into the unconscious mind to be studied and pondered below the threshold of conscious awareness, often for years, in the dark, Apophis phase. Then, in the Osiris phase, some apparently "chance' happening will bring the mystery back to waking consciousness with the force of divine revelation like the assurance of the resurrection promised in Osiris--and the seeker has found the light of truth. This happens again and again on the path, each small step bringing us closer to the glory of metaphysical noontide. Or so it now seems to me. May we all survive long enough to arrive at the gates of Eden and enter them in peace. Shalom, salaam, shanti, shanti, shanti. With love under will, Bob, Adastra, The Wizzard of Jacksonville Sun, 12 Apr 2009 16:45:58 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/2133d82e-d80a-4668-8f64-4e7d5eee4138#2a466835-e24b-43e7-b4e4-29ac7f755c1c Adastra 2009-04-12T16:45:58Z http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/2133d82e-d80a-4668-8f64-4e7d5eee4138#81c61c79-5014-4286-83b7-c5fb97ee6a68 Curious if anyone has any information or resources for associating the individual Tarot trumps to the stages of Alchemy...? Thank you for your time and contributions. Tue, 09 Dec 2008 20:36:58 GMT http://Alchemical.tribe.net/thread/2133d82e-d80a-4668-8f64-4e7d5eee4138#81c61c79-5014-4286-83b7-c5fb97ee6a68 Jordan 2008-12-09T20:36:58Z